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a wonderful holiday because the president's is about to end. boehner and the boys? what's the rush? ♪ >> first of all, we want to say merry christmas. >> president obama is cutting short his christmas break with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls
cuts and spending cuts kicked in. speaker john boehner has been trying to overcome some seriously stiff republican opposition. our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is beginninging our coverage this hour. dana, what's the very latest as far as republicans in the house, the majority are concerned? >> reporter: the very latest, wolf, is that down this hallway is the house speaker's office. in that house right now are minutes of the house republican leadership having a discussion, what are they going to do? are they going to have a vote tonight and more importantly, are they going to try to put this senate-passed bill on the house floor with an amendment. it was very clear in talking to many, many house republicans coming out of a meeting they had earlier this afternoon that there was a big desire to have an amendment with some spending cuts. in fact, i spoke with one of those republicans, steve la tour receipt. >> the speaker, to his credit, says we are famous for putting poison pills in pieces of legislation and they can say, that's a poison pill. he's asked that we be respons
think we're at a point after, after the implosion by boehner and the party not to be able to come to an agreement with president obama. that we're talking about a short fix relative to a new congress dealing with the complexity and a comprehensive package of long-term, of fiscal policy in this country. that's what many of us have asked for, that everything has been to be on the table. that it has to be an honest and open discussion. >> you just said that everything should be on the table. the president has made this clear. he said that everyone needs to give a little bit to reach the grand bargain. and a new gallup poll says that 68% of americans want congress, that's you, to compromise. to come up with a solution. only 22% say stick to your principles. now, you spoke out against the president's first off, saying it looked like he was offering a cut to social security, but if his next offer looks the same and that's the only way to come together, would you support it? >> honestly, the support and many of us, including myself, are disappointed that cutting social security benefits
. the final tally, 257-167, and while 151 republicans voted no, it is worth noting its speaker, john boehner, voted yes, so did paul ryan, by the way. here is the deal that took over 500 days to seal. no tax hikes for couples earning less than $ 450,000 a year. itemized deductions, and unemployment benefits extended and alternative minimum tax adjusted for inflation. >> here is the deal. what the deal doesn't address is federal spending. drastic domestic and defense cuts have been put off for more than two months. looking ahead that could get messy if this is an indication, think about that. and also the debt ceiling this is the end of february this is now at 16$16.4 trillion and by e way, we just blew past that this week. the president drawing a line in the sand for that upcoming battle. >> i will not have another debate with this congress over whether or not they should pay the bills that they have already wracked up. the congress refuses to give the united states government the ability to pay these bills on time. and the consequences for the entire global economy would be catastrophic. fa
: well, you know what, peter? there's not lost love between boehner and president obama. are they going to meet? >> reporter: they might, gregg. the speaker is expected to return to washington soon but we still don't know of a specific time set aside on his calendar to meet with the president. actually the last we heard from the speaker he said that since voters in november picked republicans to control the house, he is going to stay true to his party's principles in december in the course of making any kind of a compromise. >> the american people reelected president obama on election day. they also reelected a republican majority here in the house. in doing so they gave us all a mandate. it was not a mandate to raise taxes on families and small businesses. it was a mandate to work together to begin solving the massive debt that threatens our country's future. >> reporter: the house and the senate will both be back in session tomorrow and the president has said he expects them to quickly vote to pass legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff, if, he and the speaker are able to make a deal b
ago when speaker boehner had a plan to raise taxes on those earning more than $1 million, the feeling was that he had about 190 republican votes. if the will of 190 holes, then you'll get a -- then you'll get an oath -- if the 190 holds, then you will get a majority. it again, one thing we have learned in this game is that nothing is assured. host: now there is work to be done for this 113th congress. what is the dynamic there? guest: the democrats picked up a few seats in the senate. it is 55-45 at the moment. if john kerry is confirmed as secretary of state, then it goes to 54. democrats have a little more strength. the president gets inaugurated january 20, 21st. then we are back to fighting over the debt limit, the sequester, the continuing solutions. it goes on and on. host: give us the highlights of what was approved by the senate this morning. guest: the bush era tax rates continue for everybody except those individuals earning over $400,000 and families earning over $450,000. they want to bring the levels back to 39.6%. in addition, several other things. the alternative minimu
like had been on the table in so-called plan a, the $4 trillion debt deal he and john boehner had been talking about for weeks. so we might see a small bit of spending cuts just to stave off the sequester, the massive amount of spending cuts that will kick in at the beginning of the year to harm the pentagon and other agencies. if they are getting anything, there are low expectations but if they get anything it will be a very small deal, something much smaller than they have been talking about for weeks, jon. jon: there aren't too many people these meetings. so a little hard to get an assessment, what is your idea, what is your best, yeah, assessment i guess how things are between some of these leaders? >> reporter: they have gotten pretty tense the last couple of days as they have come back from the christmas holiday. we saw yesterday senate majority leader harry reid basically accusing john boehner of running a deck tate toreship, that was his word in the house of representatives. reid piled on a little bit late yesterday afternoon and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell respond
the $1 trillion in cost reductions that he offered speaker boehner over the last couple of weeks. none of y'all have ever asked him to my knowledge, for a list of specifics but maybe if he would give us those specifics now, we could use those as part of these negotiations. i've never seen those. i don't think they really exist. as a matter of fact, i'm pretty sure they don't exist. but so we are in a situation though -- this is all high drama, i realize. i think that leader mcconnell is having a pretty fruitful conversation with vice president biden and hopefully over the course of the next short period of time, will come up with a resolution that's different than taxing the wealthy to spend all the money right now. if we can do that maybe something goodwill co will come t another way to do this would bring a bill up on the floor and begin debating t that is what we are hired to do and be a much better process -- >> with rrngts i know you agree with me, you guys are hired to do a lot of things not done around here. i know you agree. >> i will agree. i have offered a bill to deal with t
an obligation to do the best we can and that was made very clear. >> brown: house speaker john boehner aides said if the senate passes a bill the house will take it up and either accept or amend it and a short time ago president obama appeared in the white house briefing room with a statement. here is some of what he said. >> we had a constructive meeting today. senators reids and mcconnell are discussing a potential agreement where we can get a bipartisan bill out of the senate over to the house and done in a timely fashion so that we met the december 31st deadline. but given how things have been working in this town we always have to wait and see until it actually happens. the one thing that the american people should not have to wait and see is some sort of action so if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate i expect a bill to go on the floor. and i've asked senator reid to do this put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle-class families don't go up. that unemployment insurance is still available for 2 million people and that lays the groundwork
leader harry reid called speaker boehner, that speaker boehner was running dictate toreship in the house. speaker boehner to his face to harry reid, go f yourself and used three other letters. harry reid said back to boehner. what are you talking about. boehner repeated verbatim, go f yourself. this is indication of the poison atmosphere up here. when the sequestration runs out next few months and congress must vote to increase the debt ceiling. it appears speaker boehner is fwirding for a fight on both fronts in a statement that he issued last night. he said in part, quote, now the focus turns to spending. the american people reelected a republican majority in the house and we will use it in 2013 to hold the president accountable for the quote, balanced approach he promised. meaning significant spending cuts and reforms to entitlement programs that are driving our country deeper and deeper into debt. the president last night indicate he is open to come promy to spending cuts but drew a line when it comes to the debt ceiling. here's the president. >> now, one last point i want to make. w
republicans have not been able or willing to do. the vote john boehner schedule and had to cancel is evidence of that in the present cost mind -- in the president's mind. we have part of what speaker boehner said. "the comments today are ironic as a recurrent theme was his unwillingness to stand up to anything in his own party. from the republican side of the aisle and speaker boehner, where are things at the moment? guest: the speaker had been hoping there would be a larger deal. the president was ready to move forward on in the time they had in front of them. this was in vision at one point to be the grand bargain which would incorporate in atomic reform and all sorts of budget cuts. changes to the tax rates. unemployment benefit changes. going all the way through to the debt ceiling being raised as part of it as well. that was not something that was ever really where things were headed by the time the negotiations got started. for speaker boehner, he wants to see the spending cuts that would go along with them. he does not feel the president has put forward enough of a plan to where the sp
: not so fast. house speaker john boehner and his gop lawmakers might not go along. boehner sent house members home to celebrate the new year without a vote to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> listen, this is disgusting. and everybody involved should be embarrassed. >> reporter: the economy could still take a hit. while the house takes up maybe later today whether to follow the senate's lead and hike taxes on the wealthy. from capitol hill, steve handelsman, nbc news. bill, back to you. >> reaction to the senate's move was swift as many people were still up welcoming the new year. familiar faces on msnbc were in rare form starting with joe scarborough who tweeted, why can't washington ever put together a deal that cults spent? this deal fails on most counts. it's a distressing failure of leadership. "morning joe" regular steve ratner tweeted, the only thing worse than this deal would have been no deal, or maybe not, he added. ezra kline wrote, obama isn't making it easier for res to vote for this deal but probably thinks if the rs kill it they get all the fiscal cliff blame. >>> now deals on
that their taxes won't go up $2,200 each. >> reporter: not so fast. house speaker john boehner and his might not go along. boehner sent republicans home to celebrate the new year without the fiscal cliff. >> everybody involved should be embarrassed. >> reporter: the economy could still take a hit. while the house takes up maybe later today, whether to follow the senate's lead and hike taxes on the wealth. from capitol hill, i'm steve handelsman, nbc news. bill, back to you. >> well, thanks, steve. >>> we have new details today on secretary of sate hillary clinton and the blood clot that has her hospitalized. the clot is located in a vein in a space between the brain and the skull, near her right ear. it did not cause a stroke or neurological damage. doctors say she's making excellent progress. the blood clot is related to a concussion clinton suffered earlier this month. it was discovered during a follow-up exam on sunday. >>> from amazing fireworks displays to ancient traditions in polar plunges folks around the world marked 2013 in their own unique way. nbc's kirk gregory take ace look. >> report
their heads handed to them, the g.o.p. leadership. it took a lot of movement by speaker john boehner who had to get everybody out of town and unilaterally passed the bill -- his own, getting his republican members out of town. so this is going to be a very, you know, sketchy situation for the house of representatives. >> so this deal, absolutely not a sure thing, as far as passing in the house of representatives and we need to emphasize, chad, even if it does pass, this is just a temporary bill. it was just designed to stave off those automatic spending cuts and tax hikes for a cume of months. the word pundits keep using is kicking the can down the road. this has to be re-addressed in two months, when this temporary bill, somewhat expire, correct? >> yeah. that's the real problem here this. deals with only the discretionary spending parted of the budget, the part of the budget that congress is in charge of. everything else that is off budget, which is entitlement spending, medicare, medicaid, social security, there is nothing in this to touch that. that's really what draws theire of conserva
when fo mcconnell when for a longtime we were hearing it rested in boehner's hands. >> first it was boehner and obama, they failed to get a grand bargain. john boehner was unable to pass his plan b debt reduction bill and they decided to go in another way. boehner said let's see what the senate can do. we saw senator reid and mitch mcconnell try to get a deal, that failed. now mcconnell and biden who have a very good relationship. they worked on extending the tax breaks in 2010 they are trying it. the clock is ticking. the public is going to have to read this bill and members will demand that they read this bill before they vote on it and that's why we will go over the fiscal cliff. >> great to have you here today. i know the clock is ticking. i know you're watching it closely. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. gregg. jon: a new report on the terror attack on our consulate in libya. who they are blaming for the deaths of four americans including our ambassador. a french court says goodbye to that country's controversial 75% tax rate on the wealthy. don't you wis
, many people are similarly upset. john boehner, this is a tough spot for john boehner. the house and a lot of people have said that his speakership could be threatened by this. so far, we see no sign of that. but, you know, he's in a position now where he is going to have to allow this -- probably going to have to allow this bill to hit the floor and the house and not going to get a majority of republican support. that is something that no speaker of the house of representatives, whether republican or democrat, does with any kind of frequency at all. it's considered almost a heresy. so, you know, everybody sort of recognizes the box that john boehner is in, but it's not going to really do him any good in terms of support among conservatives. there are some winners and losers here. but this fight is not over, maura. that's the bottom line. >> you mentioned vice president biden swooping in at the last minute like superman and being able to secure this deal and that's certainly the perception a lot of people had. we heard mitch mcconnell speaking on the floor and he said this should
a picture of speaker john boehner there on the front page. how did he factor into this and what was his message to members? guest: he had it tough because he's the one who will eventually need to say he got something done. no one wants to be on a book for the tax increase. they called it eclipsed for reasons. the tax increase on middle class americans was the biggest part of the cliffs. it was the biggest threat to gdp growth of if you let the taxes go up. so that is a tough position he's in. he is facing comment and criticism from conservatives saying don't pass this, because this is just more debt. so it's a tough balancing act. in the end, he has said for his role speakership and he wants the house to work its will. convenientt's a good way to put it at times. and taken back up and say let us see what the house does aunt clara at the house do what it wants. and you're inevitably split with republicans and you let it go through that way. early in the process he voted and walk away and they were gone. during debate last night, many democrats showed up to debate the measure if and said
war in a weekend. >> dave: he can get it done but there is still john boehner and the house republicans. i'm not modestly optimistic. anything through the house at this point. >> juliet: like lindsey gram said two days ago when you call a meeting publicly in washington it usually turns out to be the dog and pony show or theater basically. honestly calling at this late hour. they met for an hour. what could really go down in that type of meeting? things can go down but really, it's just at the edge. they waited so long. they all went on their vacations. >> clayton: here are some things on the table to answer those questions perhaps. generalities. we don't know what's been tabled. democrats still strong about this. they say they were, yeah, here is -- take a look at this. keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 a year or less. we know that's there. that may shift because we are hearing from republicans they may be willing to go as high as $500,000 a year. of the extended. >> dave: that's my guess. >> extending unemployment tax benefits for 2 million folks still unemployed.
: indeed, but my hunch is it will not be a raucous affair. i would assume speaker boehner would have a hands-off approach, and say, "guys, i did my best, this came down the pike, we try to come up with the deal, and not get it done." his own caucus would not support it. we should have realized that was the danger. at the time, speaker boehner said to the president and harry reid, the senate needs to send something our way, and we will deal with it. i thought it was a humble and honest approach. now, they got it, and i do not think they're going to like it. host: again, the house comes into session around noon eastern time. keep your television on c-span as we continue our coverage of the so-called fiscal cliff. tactically, we went over the -- technically, we went over the cliff, but all reports are if this deal is approved by the house, they could retroactively fixed the tax hikes, and also before the sequestration or automatic spending cuts kick in wednesday, the have another day to deal with that as well. guest: nothing means anything around here. they can legislate things backward
. the market doesn't seem to care. >> all the big deal, boehner and obama tried to do last year, still have to do that, simpson boles-type thing. >> by what the secretary of the treasury said yesterday. >> right. >> thank you for being here. >> bromance. a lot of fun. make sure you join us tomorrow. "squawk on the street" begins right now. >>> good thursday morning, welcome to "squawk on the street" live from the new york stock exchange, i'm carl kin ten nia with melissa lee, cramer and neighborer are off today but we are joined by dennis. good morning to you dennis, thanks for coming in. futures today, a lot to deal with as you probably know. the fiscal cliff headline watch continues. you just heard john kanas say the market not too concerned. futures up 21 points. decent data out of europe, we will talk about in a minute what a day for the asian markets again. also coming up. our road map begins at andrews air force base where the president arrives in a couple of hours, cutting his hawaiian vacation short to address the fiscal cliff s there really any hope in the last attempt? does the ma
that the bill was being pulled. i don't enjoy saying this. i consider myself a personal friend of john boehner, and john boehner personally has been very helpful to me over the years. so it pains me to say this. the fact is dismissive attitude that was shown last night toward new york, new jersey, connecticut typifies i believe a strain in the republican party. i know this is not the place to discuss politics, but that politics seeps over into a governmental decision that was made. i can't imagine that type of indifference, that type of disregard, that cavalier attitude being shown to any other part of the country when people we are talking about real life and death situations here, just have the speaker walk off and not tell us. tell an aide to the majority leader who tells us that we tell the majority leader that the item that means life and death was taken off the calendar and is gone for this session? they say it's going to be brought back up in january. the fact is let's be real. we are not in session next week. the following week we are in session for two days. the following week is the
in advance of the of the new year. he's there to talk to himself. john boehner will come back at any time. his office told us it would be sometime after christmas. so he could be back as soon as today. the upper chamber in commerce is coming back tomorrow to pick up where they left off on the important domestic surveillance bisa. they will meet for a vote on the $50.6 billion bill for hurricane sandy relief. they will be back in the same zip code as far as we know there are no specific time or places on the books for an inperson meaning between the two. something else that remains to be seen is everybody will return to the table with a cooler head which the president shawas hopi for before he went on his family vacation. hoe over do you. >> the fiscal cliff we have been telling you so much about could be devastating for thousands of american businesses and their workers. their new concerns this morning about profits for those companies. lauren simonetti from the fox business network joins us to explain. what's going on? >> the fiscal cliff puts it in jeopardy. many are afraid to invest in
through the house. and what do i mean by that? last night, speaker boehner sent out a statement saying the house reserves the right to amend this bill out of the senate. if there for some reason is a problem with this bill in the eyes of house republicans -- and they have been very leery of supporting anything they consider to be a tax hike -- they could change this bill. and after they do that, we do not know what happens next. it could go back to the senate, but we get into this sort of congressional ping pong. what i can tell you is republican leadership staff are going to try and tell their members today, since it's january 1st, so we've gone over the so-called fiscal cliff. if you vote for this bill, it's a vote to lower taxes, not raise taxes. it's optics, it's semantics, but it's very important for house republicans. >> it's ridiculous is what it is. >> and we know that a lot of democrats will support this final package. so, nancy pelosi will bring her votes. >> although welch told me he didn't know whether or not he would support it. >> nancy pelosi has signed off on it. it's u
at a time. it is john boehner. i am proud to work with him. >> is one particularly effective? >> one of the most important pieces of that is speakers who are willing to reach out to members and seek your advice and counsel and input, those speakers have a way of having a lasting impact upon the place. i have spent a number of years in the building. if sam raburn is not a reflection of that, i don't know who is. >> how about presidents under which you have served? >> ronald reagan. i had the honor of serving with him and he signed air quality district act for southern california. the first preschool program in the country was signed by ronald reagan. people hardly believed that but he was willing to use government in a way that was responsive to real challenged that government should be dealing with. i was proud that we had a chance to work together in connection with some of that. >> if you look across, it's a lot of history, 34 years altogether, is there a time when you look back and say those are the best years. those are the ones i enjoyed the most. >> every year that goes by it a
day. >>brian: why wouldn't they be. when you went to bed, john boehner served up two possibilities. one you could vote on the senate bill which passed overwhelmingly. two, the house might amend the senate bill and add a bunch of spending. he didn't have enough votes for that entree and in the end a whole bunch of republicans voted for the senate bill, although a whole bunch of republicans voted against the senate bill. it has passed. >>juliet: pretty amazing all the drama over the last 48 hours as opposed to nothing happening over the 48 years. let's take a breakdown. here's a look at how we break down the numbers. $622 billion is what we're seeing in new tax hikes, just $15 billion in spending cuts. we'll get more on that later. $1 spending cut for every $41 in tax hikes. that is pretty much what it amounts to. >>brian: the dollar in spending cuts for every $41 in tax hikes that is for the first year. in ten years it is going to be $1 worth of spending cuts for every $10 of tax hikes. for a lot of republicans, they go that is a lousy deal. >>brian: we're basically reviewing the sa
be controlled by john boehner. so you still have that divided congress. but the calculation is not, you know, a numerical one. it's the idea that if they go home -- first if they go home for christmas break, they'd feel the pressure, but it doesn't seem like that's coming. if they go over the cliff and they do mess with the debt ceiling, that people are going to get freaked and spooked because you'll start hearing stories about social security recipients facing the prospect of smaller checks from the government, unemployment insurance completely dried up, payroll tax cut is a big thing. your paycheck is going to start showing more is taken out of it for the payroll tax. and that will, in turn, cause the type of pressure on the new income in congress to get something done. it's interesting that we led off with kay bailey hutchison who's retiring, doesn't have a lot of the political pressures that others have. she said let's make a deal. her prediction, probably the right one, they're going to go home. suddenly once it passes, obama wim introduce his own package which will look like what he's
of the reason, just like i don't believe john boehner actually does the house speaker. there is this group in the middle, first of all they are not sure where the political blame would lie. it could end up on them and they want want to have that happen. second of all these are deal mayors. they came to washington to get deals done. and they see the result, the goal as a deal to get past this rather than looking at the numbers. the folks on each side eve are looking at the numbers and they say the deficit would be in better shape and the economy in the long run is in better shape. they are looking long term. the deal makers in the center are looking right now and say they are scared of the political consequences and we are not quite sure how the numbers end up, the last thing we need is a rescission. >> reporter: steve vin dinin in washington. thank you. >> reporter: new information on a horrified christmas eve tragedy as a note left by this ex-con suggests that he planned to kill first responders and possibly some of his own neighbors when he set this massive inferno, it happened on monday
. but jane boehner pushed ahead anyway. it went right down to the wire. but at long last, they finally did it. >> the motion is adopted. >> reporter: just minutes before the stroke of midnight, the president welcomed the news. >> this law is just one step in the broader effort to strengthen our economy and broaden opportunity for everybody. >> reporter: but the bill almost went down in the face of feeted objections from many house republicans. >> there's no spending cuts. we're adding $4 billion a day to the debt. >> what we're really doing is raising taxes to give the president more money to spend. we think that's a bad idea. >> reporter: even eric cantor, the second-highest ranking republican in the house, was opposed to the deal struck by his colleagues in the senate. >> i do not support the bill. >> reporter: but others said, like it or not, the bill was the only way to prevent a big tax increase for virtually every american worker. >> republicans and the american people are getting something really important, permanent tax relief. >> reporter: the bill will prevent an income tax relief o
: sources say john boehner referred to his senate colleagues and told them house leaders would consider their plan. one item raising the debt limit is not expected to be a part of any final compromise. if senate leaders fail the president wants congress to vote his plan keeping tax cuts for making $250,000 a year less, extending unemployment benefits for some 2 million people and delaying spending cuts until later this year. white house officials that top senate republican will be a key force in getting a deal after he made these comments. >> we are engaged in discussions majority leader and white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and majority leader can make to his conference. >>> among the issues to be hammered out is income level for extending president bush tax cuts. they send it on $250,000 but it sounds like $400,000 is where negotiations are heading. a leading republican senator says permanent is key giving certainty on tax rates that g.o.p. senators say a permanent solution for the alternativ
the their position right now, at least speaker boehner's is, hey, it is time for the senate to act on some of our bills. we'll keep an eye what is happening there. heather: busy day for them. president obama taking his case to the american public. here is what he had to say about the situation playing out on capitol hill. >> what's been holding us back is the dysfunction here in washington and if, you know, people start to see that on january 1st this problem still hasn't been solved, that we haven't seen the deficit reduction we could have had, the republicans been willing to take the deal i gave them, if they say, that people's taxes have gone up, which means consumer spending is going to be depressed, obviously that will adverse reaction in the markets. heather: there is lot at stake for all americans. three big issues on the financial front this morning as a matter of fact,. stu varney, host of "varney & company" on the fox business network joins us now. stu, no deal on capitol hill, not really doing their job but we're hearing they get a pay raise. >> that incredible to some people, but none
majority of the house of representatives to get what they want. >> house speaker john boehner oldered republicans back to the capitol for a rare sunday night session. republicans expect to vote then on whatever fiscal cliff bill the senate passes. all this one day before the deadline and the warnings of a recession that have rattled wall street and consumer confidence. >> they know it will have an anything ticket impact on the economy and they know it will have a negative impact on their families and they expect us to be here and work and we're not. >> deadlines are approaching. 2 million americans who have been out of work for more than 6 months will start losing their unemployment benefits tomorrow and the nation runs out of borrowing authority to finance or $16 trillion debt on monday. they can use extraordinary measures until they go into default. extraordinary. that might be a word that apply to then tire situation. >> major garrett, thank you very much. >>> republican bob corker of tennessee has offered proposaled to break this. senator, good morning to you. >> good morning, jef
fell apart in his negotiations with speaker boehner, was to go back to $250,000. ultimately, as he was trying to work out a deal with boehner that did fail, he was at $400,000 when things fell apart there. now up to $450,000. presumably, senate republicans would want more than that. after just a whirl wind of negotiations yesterday on capitol hill and just a very busy weekend, negotiations are now going on between senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, the top republican in the senate, and vice president joe biden. these are the two players right now. they discussed a possible remedy late into the night, around midnight, we are told, by an aide to mitch mcconnell, and at least at the staff level negotiations began again this morning. the question everyone wants to know, suzanne, of course, is are we going over the cliff? it appears very -- it's sort of unclear at this point. it's difficult to see how we kind of don't logistically and politically at this point, but the president has said he's optimistic, and so have some republicans. >> brianna, finally, what is the drop dead last
was $200 billion higher on revenues and speaker boehner, $200 billion higher on spending cuts. >> if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> reporter: tough decisions ahead, six days left. >> lawmakers will likely take on spending reform and tax cuts when the debate heats up. >> looks like they will be working over the new year. >>> a note was left by a suspected shooter that killed two firefighters christmas eve in new york. more details on the person already convicted of murder. >> reporter: police say the christmas eve ambush of four volunteer firefighters happened as they fought a massive fire in new york was spilled out in typewritten detail. >> quote i still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood i can burn down and do what i like doing best, killing people. >> reporter: authorities say 62-year-old william spangler, who served prison time killing his grandmother more than 30 years ago shot at first responders who arrived at his burning house, spreading this six other homes. >> we are being shot at multiple firing. i am shot. i think he's using an a
. they are not here. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on sound financial footing. it's obvious what's going on around here. he is waiting until january 3 to get reelected as speaker before we get serious with the negotiations, because he has so many people over there that will not follow what he wants. that's obvious from the debacle that took place last week's. host: referring to the vote yesterday on speaker boehner's plan b. guest: they might feel they have better numbers in the house than they do now later. he would be able may be to push a plan through without as much republican support. i doubt it. it would be really risky move and then we are in early january without a deal still. host: that's what you wrote in the washington journal this morning -- the wall street journal. republicans participating in a conference call yesterday said -- guest: that's right. the republicans feel like if they wait this out, they might have a clean slate on the taxes to work with. it would not be accused of increasing taxes if taxes have already gon
, they went home for their new year's eve. they are gone. john boehner, the speaker, said, they stay close. you may be called back." this means that the u.s. is definitely going to go over the fiscal cliff, at least technically. what is happening in the senate, the upper house, is that they are still working hard to bridge the gap. we are told by mitch mcconnell, the minority leader there, he says they have got a deal on taxes, but on the spending issue, the sequester issue, as they call is, they have not got a deal, but they are very, very close, so, to be honest with you, we are in no man's land. they are still meeting. i think the feeling is is that they will close the gap. they will come to some agreement, and really to make the point to the rest of the world, i think the senate will vote monday before the deadline. i cannot say, but that is the strong rumor. we are waiting to see, particularly because the house is gone and will not be able to vote until tuesday. >> what do ordinary americans make of this? they see the political squabbling, and the politicians cannot seem to sort it ou
the fact that speaker boehner's caucus seems to be doing whatever it wants to do. still, jerry blames the president. the decision was made at the polls in november. obama has the upper hand and he wants all taxes to go up so he can spend and run this country in the ground. but gary points out, the president wants more taxes only on the well to do. so taxing the rich will not get all some may want but that does not mean they should not pay what they ought to pay, and that is what they paid in 1999. okay then, okay now. you want to pay down the national debt? put everyone to work. that was doing it 15 years ago, and that can do it now. >>> that is our broadcast for tonight. we'll hope you will be around for our broadcast at 1 1:00. i will be here with erica. we'll see you then. have a great evening. bye-bye. >>> from cheating to fist fighting to a drug overdose, the biggest celebrity scandals of 2012. >>> lindsay lohan's arrest. are you afraid your daughter's going to go back to jail? >> dena's appearance with dr. phil. >> in your little shoes. >>> demi moore's wild dancing and the fran
illegally have no heart, it almost killed his campaign. >> most dishonest, john boehner, republican speaker of the house. saying quote unquote, let's be honest, we're broke. we'll be right back with new years resolutions. ♪ [ music ] >>> new years resolutions, pat. >> get at list one book on nixon done this year. >> another one? >> one. >> can get cracking on my memoir, and also continue to jog so i can continue to stay healthy and continue to do combat. >> ensure that everything i put on twitter is completely accurate. >> are you going to do a memoir? >> no. >> really? >> write a book that responds to pat buchanan's last book. >> my new year's resolution is to not have such a heavy foot when i accelerate vehicles. we try to give it to you straight. celebrate the new year. bye bye. ♪ [ music ]
than the norm. >> president obama and today's edition of "meet the press." speaker boehner in particular said "the president has never called for the senate to act on those bills, he has allowed the democratic controlled senate to lead our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff. congress people from both parties are searching for a bipartisan solution. that is the leadership that america needs, not what we saw from the president this morning ." those of the comments from speaker boehner. the house has gaveled out. we expect them back in about two hours. let's go to newbury port. caller: thank you for c-span. i do not understand where this $250,000 number comes from. i am 70 and have never been asked to make a sacrifice by any congress. it just seems to me that if the average income in most states -- to ask people making $125,000 or more, to ask them to contribute more, that seems to be a no- brainer. i do not see why people in this country are not ready to make a compromise. let's face it, we will either all have to pay slightly more taxes and accept the fact that our bene
be working concurrent with that as well. house speaker john boehner did say that he and his leadership team and the rest of the republican caucus want to take a good look at the bill that the senate passed before they put it up for a vote but he did until that that vote could happen late today or perhaps early on wednesday. now, in the deal that was approved by the senate, income tax rates will stay the same for most americans. individuals making $400,000 and couples making $450,000 will see their taxes rise. the planned spending cuts in defense and dopings tim programs have been delayed for two months. senators say it is a less than perfect flan but it is a start. some still criticize the bill saying it doesn't go far enough to reduce the deficit or unemployment. >> the idea that people earning $300 to you to $400,000 a year could not pay the taxes they paid in the 1990s when the economy was booming is just plain absurd. >> of a said all along that our most important priority was to protect the middle class familiaries. this legislation does that. middle class families will wake up today t
is next. and that's coming up. and if john boehner wants to stay as speaker of the house, the thing he's going to have to tell his members is that he's going to play just as hard on that as the president played on these taxes and that he's got to be willing, if he wants to do this, if what mitch mcconnell, who is the architect of this deal on the republican side in the senate, if what he says is going to be true, that means the republicans have to be willing to do some pretty terrible stuff, like get the blame for shutting down the government. get the blame for throwing the economy into recession, really do those things. so the question is this, megyn, are they willing to do now what they weren't willing to do before? that is, shall we say, an open question? >> well, maybe it is. i don't know. and they is say past is prologue. on the money front, it did -- not everybody, it wasn't just the rich. the rich paid more, but there were some people who got some good deals out of this fiscal cliff deal and it includes a bunch of hollywood producers who apparently received 430 million dollars i
of market sense, then you're losing. if senator reid says something and speaker boehner says something else, nothing fundamental has changed. white stock investors are buying and selling based on political speeches is beyond me. host: what index will you be watching? here is a headline from the wall street journal -- what index will you be watching? guest: think consumer confidence is the big indicator. there are a number of ways to measure it. if you go back to the august debt ceiling deal, i think people did not even realize in washington, but you look at the data, he saw a major drop in consumer confidence around the time and it became clear that politicians were arguing and squabbling and were not coming to terms. i think that is a severe problem in this recession because consumer demand is not strong enough to propagate a strong economic recovery. anything that dampened consumer demand is a problem. watching these politicians not getting together, even if they get a deal, the damage there is down. you see your leaders not being able to take simple steps. the deal they are talking about
and speaker boehner says something else, nothing fundamental has changed. white stock investors are buying and selling based on political speeches is beyond me. host: what index will you be watching? here is a headline from the wall street journal -- what index will you be watching? guest: think consumer confidence is the big indicator. there are a number of ways to measure it. if you go back to the august debt ceiling deal, i think people did not even realize in washington, but you look at the data, he saw a major drop in consumer confidence around the time and it became clear that politicians were arguing and squabbling and were not coming to terms. i think that is a severe problem in this recession because consumer demand is not strong enough to propagate a strong economic recovery. anything that dampened consumer demand is a problem. watching these politicians not getting together, even if they get a deal, the damage there is down. you see your leaders not the deal they are talking about is identical to the deal president obama talked about the day after the election. the time in betwe
focused on the house, speaker boehner, plan. about, plan b falling apart. now speaker boehner is pointing towards the senate and the white house is pointing towards the senate as a place where we might get bipartisan cooperation. they think they have 10 republican votes for some kind of a plan that the president would propose that democrats in republicans in the senate could get together on and then ask speaker boehner to have a vote on it in the house. that could be a problem for speaker boehner because he could get a bill passed with that splits his republican caucus and puts in danger his re-election as speaker on january 3rd. kelly: that is a lot of talk going around in circles in washington right now. you're very optimistic something can be done but on the other hand there are several economist, juan, that predict indeed we'll go over the fiscal cliff and the inaction of congress has the potential of plunging the united states into another recession. that said, they can't afford to becoming a reality. >> so far they have been very fortunate that the markets have not reacted with pani
to be done in the senate. the house did its best, boehner did his best, now it's up to the senate to come up with something. is that your position now, your understanding of how your house leadership is handling this? basically the ball is in the senate's court? >> all you have to do is look at what harry reid, the leader of the senate has been saying from day one. every time that speaker boehner put forth a common-sense plan to fix this problem, harry reid would say, right off the bat it is doa, dead on arrival. not one thing that speaker boehner proposed that reid said, oh, we can work with that. it's about scoring political points. the american people are tired of all of us, i understand that. we just make used car salesmen look good. that's the only group is below us. but we've got to get our act together, and prove to the american people that we can regain the trust that they once had in us and get the job done. and as you say, not kick the can down the road. they want to us work this out. i hope we do. >> let's talk about something a little more bright. the former marine stuck in mexic
be a measure to require democratic support in the house which speaker boehner was not relying on then. you look at this lo the judgically, this is entirely possible to get through congress, the issue is, it is politically possible to get through congress? we don't know the answer to that. >> thank you, brianna keilar. >>> police are investigating whether nbc's david gregory violated d.c. gun laws when he displayed what he described as a 30-round magazine during a "meet the press" interview. >> here is a magazine that carries 30 bullets. isn't it possible that we got rid of ese and said you can only have a magazine that carries five bullets or ten bullets, isn't it possible we could reduce the carnage? >> i don't believe that will make one difference. >> we don't know if that was authentic or a prop, but having a large-capacity ammunition device like a magazine is illegal in washington, d.c. if it holds more than ten rounds of ammunition, whether or not it's attached to a firearm. >>> los angeles, pushing up its gun buyback, in light of the newtown massacre it was originally set for next may. in
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